Now, Kevin Brittingham, part of the original design team for the Honey Badger, brings his expertise to a revamped design called the Q Honey Badger Pistol. Like the original, the Q Honey Badger Pistol is constructed to take full advantage of a rifle-caliber cartridge in a compact, easily maneuverable platform. The system is also optimized for suppressor usage, just like the original.
However, there are a number of differences, namely a redesigned gas system and trigger that make this 2.
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Regardless, until we are told otherwise by the U. We believe this day suspension is an effort to put manufacturers, distributors, and consumers at ease, and to postpone the issue past the presidential election in hopes that a new administration will take a different view. Using licensees as political pawns is unbecoming of a regulatory agency and ignoring the underlying evaluation in this letter is simply irresponsible.Q, LLC. The stay will remain in place for 60 days.
Just about all American gun companies today offer products furnished with braces and they have become widely accepted by gun owners.
The public backlash was immediate and industry-wide. Major manufacturers including Q and SB Tactical along with gun-rights organizations and manufacturing associations alike demanded that the ATF reverse their decision and at the very least, explain their reasoning. In what is hopefully part of a larger change of heart, the ATF put a pause on their cease and desist letter, issuing a day stay on the decision to classify the Honey Badger Pistol as an SBR. After the day period the ATF will decide whether to withdraw or extend the suspension of their cease and desist letter.
The reasoning behind their decision to reclassify the Honey Badger Pistol was never officially clarified and it left a lot of gun owners and manufacturers wondering what the future was for braced pistols. In that photo they show that the Honey Badger Pistol measures just over The ATF generally requires that braces measure no longer than That photo also shows the brace measured incorrectly.
In order to determine the length of the brace, the measurement needs to be taken parallel to the bore of the firearm. Other measurements are not accurate and can increase the reported length of the brace.
For now, Honey Badger owners can breathe a sigh of relief. But this could change shortly. This also serves as a warning for anyone holding a braced pistol with a long or telescoping brace. The ATF may consider these firearms to be regulated under the NFA if the braces are too long in their extended position. Criminals do not follow the law. They could care less what the law requires. They will saw off barrels and stocks to make a SBR to use for criminal activity.
In the meantime law abiding citizens are denied a useful firearm that they would not use for anything but lawful activities.The latest notice, dated Oct. Republican lawmakers, related firearm industry partners, and the White House reportedly have now waded into the controversy over the pistol, which is fitted with a stabilizing brace. Department of Justice "to further review the applicability of the National Firearms Act to the manufacture and transfer" of the Honey Badger pistol.
The suspension will remain in effect for 60 days, "unless withdrawn or extended by ATF. Q will not succumb to this level or irresponsibility.
Therefore, without further clarification from ATF on their evaluation, we will not continue manufacturing the Honey Badger Pistol. For those just now coming across this model, how has it stood up over the years? Let's find out. The Kids S. Texas-based Staccato, formerly STI, announced this week that over law enforcement agencies are currently using or have approved the company's series pistols for duty use. California has lead the country in gun control since as far back as Today, we'll take a look at what makes a long gun California Compliant and how that relates to the states definition of an "Assault Weapon.
Please enter a keyword to search. Sign In Login to Your Account. Forgot your password? Create an account? The Guns. Link copied to clipboard. Check back to Guns. Featured Products See All. Latest News. Your browser does not support the video tag.The NRA strongly disagrees with this arbitrary, inequitable, and incorrect determination by ATF that puts millions of firearms owners in danger of federal prosecution. Now, with no notice or opportunity for public input, ATF appears to be reversing course.
This arbitrary approach is clearly inconsistent with the right to keep and bear arms and due process of law. By blurring the lines on legal definitions that carry serious criminal consequences, ATF is putting law-abiding gun owners, the firearm industry, and law enforcement in the impossible position of attempting to read the minds of ATF bureaucrats when complying with or applying federal law. Please take action by contacting the Department of Justice and asking them to take swift action to rein in ATF and reverse this terrible determination.
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Ex-Post-Facto is still unconstitutional regardless of what agency or Personnel within agencies attempt to utilize the illegal method s. Meanwhile, perhaps Honey Badger could start a new company on the side, make the braces and other add ons in that companuy, and only sell the pistol less brace. That way, anyone could buy the pistol and be clear. The brace, manufactured by a different company, would be no different than, say, a removable box magazine made by, say, MagPull would be.
ATF wanna play stupid games, try a fast end run round them. Meanwile, slog on in the legal battle. They have no authority to make laws without congressional oversigh or approval. Honey Badget? The brace Q used is pretty much a shoulder stock.
Honey Badger SBR Decision Put on Pause, A Possible Reason for Classification
They all wanted a SBR that they could carry in their vehicle like a handgun. So do we expect that the 60 day push may be somewhere connected to the 10th circuit judgment on bump stocks. Negotiating Rights Away,a day late and millions short, because Little Wayne has plans for the millions. This is NOT, however, a final decision.
Notify of. Inline Feedbacks. Green Mtn. Last edited 6 days ago by Green Mtn.There can be no question that our Constitution requires accountability to coincide with the enactment of laws, and that those laws must be within specific, limited, and enumerated powers, not left to bureaucrats who escape all aspects of responsibility. Once more, we remind ATF and the executive branch that their authority has limits and that, if need be, they will once again be reminded of those limits through legal action.
Our legal team will continue to closely monitor this issue and take whatever action is necessary, possible, and prudent to protect the rights of law-abiding gun owners and our members against abusive government agencies and policies. Firearms Policy Coalition www. Q tried an end run around the law, and they lost. So, does this now mean that the hundreds of thousands of AR style pistols that are in the hands of law abiding people are now all illegal?
Has every person that owns one now been made into a criminal in violation of the ATF? Are all arm braces now considered rifle stocks?
Too many questions left unanswered, inquiring minds want to know. Vote accordingly. F… the ATF!! They are ass backwards.
They loose on alcohol!! They loose on tabbacco-juana!!! And they loose on my firearms!!!! Defund the ATF!! But then you might not even know what you did. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Notify of. Inline Feedbacks.The New Hampshire-based firearms company posted the Aug. Chambered in. The seven-page response from Q's attorneys to ATF contends the agency's letter was procedurally deficient and not based on any publicly-available standards while proposing possible solutions.
With the ATF's opening salvo on pistol braces having implications potentially affecting millions of legal gun owners who have such items, at least two national pro-gun groups have jumped to Q's defense. The National Rifle Association posted an urgent call to action to its members to contact their legislators and the Department of Justice to apply pressure on the ATF to reverse its new determination.
NRA-ILA: Update on Q’s Honey Badger and Call to Action
By blurring the lines on legal definitions that carry serious criminal consequences, ATF is putting law-abiding gun owners, the firearm industry, and law enforcement in the impossible position of attempting to read the minds of ATF bureaucrats when complying with or applying federal law. In addition, the Firearms Policy Coalition issued a similar public appealsaying, "ATF has once again unlawfully and unconstitutionally exceeded its authority and changed the law by issuing a new determination that is devoid of logic and reason, contains no explanation as to the manner in which it arrived at its conclusion, conflicts with its prior determinations, and embodies the very essence of 'arbitrary and capricious.
As previously reported by Guns. A letter penned by Rep. Gaetz and three fellow Congressmen followed up with a second letter last week after receiving no response. In the meantime, and in an effort to keep HBP owners out of the ATF's crosshairs, Q is encouraging owners to take one of the following steps:. Upon Form 1 approval, the firearm may be reassembled. For those just now coming across this model, how has it stood up over the years?
Let's find out. The Kids S. Texas-based Staccato, formerly STI, announced this week that over law enforcement agencies are currently using or have approved the company's series pistols for duty use. California has lead the country in gun control since as far back as Today, we'll take a look at what makes a long gun California Compliant and how that relates to the states definition of an "Assault Weapon.
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